Comments on: Did Doc Rivers knock Ray Allen’s character?

By: Kris

Kris — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:43:57 +0000

“Personality wise, Rondo sucks”… so what did you guys do when you hung out or when you sat down and spent time with him? Or are you just going off what you’ve read in the media? Probably the latter. Not saying he’s an angel, but sucks is a bit much. Especially when you’ve probably only seen him on television.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:45:42 +0000

This is a clown article bro.

By: Joe C

Joe C — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:08:23 +0000

@dmtshooter…If u think Ray Allen leaving, because he just wants to win chips, then you’re seriously delusional, no disrespect. I’m just saying…

By: Green#00

Green#00 — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:03:07 +0000

@ Robert Smith. Are you serious? Miami winning the ECF had nada to do with Bosh. Maybe you forgot, but Miami won games 1 and 2 without Bosh and lost game 5 with Bosh. I don’t buy that argument, sorry. How about Lebron credit, because he avg double-double during the ECF. The Celtics simply went cold in gm 6. Game 4 in the final minutes the C’s ran out of gas and got no bench support.

Ray had his reasons for leaving I just don’t agree with some of them. But in Miami Ray will have a lesser role.

By: DMtShooter

DMtShooter — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:24:32 +0000

Allen is gone and Rondo is here. Of course Rivers is going to say that Allen was the problem; he’s managing assets, not delivering candid and 100% truthful assessments of What Is Truth.

As for your long distance psychoanalysis of Allen’s motivations, um, is it possible that dude just wants to win championships, and thinks his best chance to do that is to be with the champions?

By: Jimjule

Jimjule — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:49:15 +0000

I’m neither a Celtic or a Heat fan, but I really respect Doc Rivers, both as a coach, former player and person. When two player don’t get along as in the case of Rondo and Ray, the coach must do his best to appear as if he has no favorites. But in the end he must make a decision in favor of one player. It is very important to have a happy and productive point guard who knows what is expected of him more so that a three point shooter. Personality wise, Rondo sucks, but his job is more important. Result: the Celtics loose a good player. Ray felt that Rondo was often out of control when penetrating and should have been kicking the ball out instead of trying to get to the hoop against a packed in defense. Who was right, who knows? But the end result was Rivers chose to side his younger point guard.

By: Robert Smtih

Robert Smtih — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:37:23 +0000

Those games where Ray was getting 40-50 I believe came against the chicago bulls in the division series against a mediocre bulls team minus tom thibodeau (celtics assistant coach at the time). Despite those big numbers ray posted, that series still when the full seven games and was followed by a loss to the Orlando Magic. A valid argument could be made that if Garnett was healthy throughout the playoffs (strictly hypothetical) the celtics would have been favorites to repeat as champions. What Garnett provides to the team is terrific team defence (forcing ooponents to take inefficient shots) as well as more efficient offense. While Pierce has the ability to create his own offence and hit big shots, Ray Allen never was quite up to par with Pierce, though he was the best option for an open shot. I have to say that Ray did a generally good job playing his role hitting open shots) as part of the team’s offence throughout his stay in Boston. Watching the Celtics play the Heat last season, I believe a key reason why Miami eventually prevailed in the series was due to the return of Chris Bosh. On the Celtics side they should never have had Garnett guarding Bosh out on the perimeter, (where he unusually converted his shots successfully most of the time) as Garnett’s role I believe is best served as someone who patrols the lane and provides help denfence where necessary creating tough shots for Lebron and Wade. When Ray couldn’t keep step with the drives of Lebron and Wade the Heat would get too many easy shots. In this instance Avery Bradley’s unfortunate injury came at a critical time in the season. But the impression was that Ray Allen was also suffering from an ankle injury at the time.

What could be taken away from the series was despite the inferior athletic ability of the Celtics matched up against the heat, they were likely the more intelligent team on the court (if not in all of basketball the past few years.) As great as Bird and Magic were as individual players, their abilities to get the most out of the team pushed their respective teams to multiple finals and created their legacy. The 1986 Celtics team who are arguably the greatest team ever put on the court, had their greatness defined by their terrific passing ability. It was also the year they added Bill Walton who was renowned as one of the best passing Centers in the game.

Anyway i believe whatever is in Ray’s interest is up to him, but I think he played his role very well while in Boston whether he enjoyed it or not. The major question each year following the Cetlics 2008 Championship has been the question of health. from 2009, 2010(Perkins), 2011 (rondo) as well as 2012 ( primarily Bradley, but also Green along with Wilcox). Trust me Celtics know more than any other team the formula to winning basketball games (Team is bigger than individual).

By: Guster

Guster — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:06:35 +0000

What are you talking about jocko? Pierce can light up for at least 40 – he had some great battles AGAINST Lebron in cleveland, when he had to play defense as well. KG may not put up those numbers, but his impact on the game (for defense and rebounding is easily worth that much). And rondo in game 2 was crazy in terms of scoring. Ray Allen definitely has (or had) game, but that doesn’t mean the other key members of the team can’t do the same thing…

By: jocko

jocko — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:59:41 +0000

Doc Rivers is a great coach and Ray Allen is a great player. What Doc believes is best for the Celtics may be right most of the time, it sure isn’t right ALL of the time. There is no question Allen can still play. Rondo had some great stats and was a big factor often because he had the ball all the time. Remember when Pierce was hurt a few years ago in the playoffs? Ray came out and hit in the 40′s and even had a 50 point game as I recall because he was the offense. It didn’t make them winners but what other super star on the Celtics could have done that – no one. Not Pierce, not Garnet, not Rondo. Ray can still play and he maybe should have been a bigger part of the offense. Rondo could have given up the ball a lot more and the offense could have created more involvement for Allen. Sour grapes – maybe some but why spend another season with a team that doesn’t give you the right amount of respect and go with one that gives you a better chance of garnering the big ring.